[foofus-tools] off-Topic: Bitcoin and password cracking?

tak shacks tak.31337 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 22 14:01:56 PDT 2011


Hey Richard,

I'm pretty sure the section on hash cracking etc. was about stealing
bitcoins from trojan'ed victims. Normally wallet.dat is unencrypted
therefore can easily be pick however pocketed. I could be wrong on that
however, it's just what I got from the power-point.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Richard Miles <
richard.k.miles at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Tak
>
> Thanks for answer and it make sense. But what about Bitcoin to crack
> password hashes or own profit?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM, tak shacks <tak.31337 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It made some good points about how using the bitcoin currency is a good
> way
> > to stay anonymous when trying to scam people. If you have them send money
> to
> > an address, or account it's difficult to stay anonymous unless the
> account
> > is someone elses and compromised. with bitcoin it's all virtual so
> anonymity
> > is possible.
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Richard Miles
> > <richard.k.miles at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi foofus members,
> >>
> >> First of all sorry for off-topic, but this sound interesting and I
> >> know that foofus guys are always playing with everything that is
> >> related with hacking and password cracking so I decided to send it
> >> here, I hope you don't mind.
> >>
> >> I never used Bitcoins and it's not very popular with my circle of
> >> friend, but a presentation entitled "Hacking the Global Economy with
> >> GPUs or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Bitcoin" called my
> >> attention, however it's very confuse (at least to me).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://this-download-would-be-faster-with-a-premium-account-at-good.net/dl/1483089/0/0/1313942385/219be7f80763b020d6319ca8e9afaa03e0a035d9/k4r3lj/DEFCON19/DEFCON-19-Skunkworks-Bitcoin.pdf
> >>
> >> I'm a bit unsure about what is the goal of the preso and real usage of
> >> GPUs and hash cracking with bitcoins. The author gave the idea that it
> >> can be used as a botnet and since there is a lot of GPU systems it
> >> could be a wonderful network for distributed hash password cracking if
> >> the price to do it is acceptable (since Amazon EC2 is expensive).
> >> Anyone has any experience with it?
> >>
> >> Or, maybe the goal of this people is just use Bitcoin to be rich with
> >> all this power based on the GPUs "printing" money, which also is a
> >> confusing concept to me and Wikipedia say it may not be that easy
> >> anymore
> >>
> >> "The proof-of-work problems are especially suitable to GPUs and
> >> specialized hardware. Because of the growing computing power behind
> >> the system driving the difficulty to high levels, individual
> >> contributors with typical CPUs are no longer likely to solve a block
> >> on their own but can still receive part of the Bitcoin generated in a
> >> new block by contributing their processing power to a mining pool.[26]
> >> This increased difficulty makes it cost prohibitive for an attacker to
> >> perform double-spending attacks so it is beneficial to the system."
> >>
> >> All answers are very welcome and sorry for off-topic.
> >>
> >> Cheers
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              -tak
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