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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Johny...my thoughts on how I would like it to work (given my
recent experiences):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Manually handle the AV product, as now (presumably) you are
doing this on (or to) a box you have full legal access to, and full admin
rights to work on. This is what I am doing anyway, as I have full support to do
what I’m doing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>It seems the current version (which was probably never designed
to work with 3.5M users in an AD, and with all due respect and thanks to all
the contributors to the current product) has issues when the USERINFO array
gets large, so in my simple thoughts, it would be good if this array never had
to be “saved”, and that each user/hash was output as it was read in
(one of my colleagues is looking at this as a “challenge”, and in very
simple terms, assuming its possible, put the file writing code of pwdump.cpp
inside lsaext.c).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I note that fgdump, which is based on this code it seems, has a
20 minute timeout, which is also why that doesn’t work for me...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>On a large AD, as USERINFO grows, I’ve observed the rate
of extraction slows considerably, so my main aim would be to rework how this
array is handled, or negate its need entirely...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Many thanks to all suggestions and advice...and I’m happy
to assist with any beta testing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>One question I have (as I don’t understand its functioning
fully), is could I run this (64bit version) on a Windows7x64 PC hooking
up to a local 32bit Windows2003/AD server running in a VM (VMWare) running on
the same box? (I might try this anyway....).....i.e what parts would run
on my PC and what parts (if any) would run on the AD (VM)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Keith Morrell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Johny Death [mailto:johnydeath@hotmail.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 25 May 2010 10:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> fizzgig@foofus.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> foofus-tools@lists.foofus.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [foofus-tools] pwdump6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hi Guys,<br>
<br>
just arrived in the middle of the thread and it's very interesting stuff - I
see Keith has success now which is great.<br>
<br>
I'd like to get current opinions regarding best methodology of hash dumping -
my last encounter which was several months ago and ended with the DC dropping
because of McAfee - yes I've seen the warnings... afterwards.<br>
<br>
Will ver3.0 alpha (and production) negate the need to turn off the AV, or would
it still be considered better to get the AV disabled for the period of the
audit/test? If this is the case and if part of a pentest, then an
agreement would have to be made between customer and tester like 'well I
believe I can achieve a hash dump, but a) do you want me to prove it, and b) if
you do, then what do you want to do to manage the risk'. <br>
<br>
I read a while ago that Metasploit uses a 'safe' technique now?
http://blog.metasploit.com/2010/01/safe-reliable-hash-dumping.html<br>
<br>
What does the floor think?<br>
<br>
Keep up the good work - it's greatly appreciated<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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